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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Thu, 09 Apr 2020, 09:40

Thanks for the corrections and sorry for the mistakes

REC Men
Championship (one round left) postponed
Trophy (six games left, plus play-off) postponed
Conference One cancelled
Conference Two cancelled
Development cancelled

REC Women
Championship (also RWC qualifying) postponed
Trophy cancelled

Euro Junior Men
Under 20 cancelled
Under 18 cancelled

Euro 7s Series
Men and women Championship postponed
Men and women Trophy postponed
Men and women Conference 1 cancelled
Men Conference 2 cancelled

Euro 7s U18
Men cancelled
Women cancelled

Euro 7s clubs
Men postponed
Women postponed

Euro Beach
Men postponed
Women postponed

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Thu, 09 Apr 2020, 09:46

Beach and clubs' sevens need just 1 weekend
Euro sevens could need just 1 weekend if they wanted to reduce the series to one only stage
Women's Euro XV needs 2 weekends
Men's Championships needs 1 weekend (plus play-out)
Men's Trophy needs at least 3 weekends (plus play-off, so 4)

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Sat, 09 May 2020, 06:33

Some National Technical Directors operating in Europe but with a nationality different from the federation they're working with

David Conyers (Australia) Austria
Phil Pretorius (South Africa) Czech Rep
Pedro Gallardo Mateos (Spain ?) Estonia
Gareth Gilbert (South Africa) Netherlands
Juan Pablo Flores (Argentina) San Marino
Nicola Cramarossa (Italy) Sweden
Cherokee Sylvain Ngue (Cameroon ?) Turkey

From Rugby Europe list, I don't know if it's perfectly updated http://www.rugbyeurope.eu/rugby-europe/unions-members

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Dcl » Sat, 09 May 2020, 07:51

Zane Gardiner (NZ) took over from Gareth Gilbert as head coach of the Netherlands last year, with Hein Kriek (SA) as technical director.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 09 May 2020, 10:31

Could we see 2021 and 2022 REC & RWCQ played back-to-back in October/November and February/March? I struggle to see all entrants being back to activity, with open borders and national leagues running by next February. It takes six different countries, three off them out of Schengen, plus clubs needing some life and games after months off. And doing RWCQ in 2022 and 2023 would be extremely late.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Thu, 14 May 2020, 05:48

Guillaume Ajac is not anymore the head coach of Belgium; after six years he ends his adventure in the role
http://www.sportkipik.be/guillaume-ajac ... bles-noirs
http://www.sportkipik.be/guillaume-ajac ... es-diables

Salvatore Zandonà, the Belgium Rugby president with probable italian origins, said: "we are preparing a restart for September, but we may be spending a lot of energy without knowing where we are going". Several options have been mentioned about the rugby restart: a resumption on January 1, a stop until the development of a vaccine against Covid-19, or a white season ... "Today, we have no certainty for the future", Salvatore concludes.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Sun, 07 Jun 2020, 16:36

BosniaHerz. federation organizes for the end of September a 10s tournament with six clubs from BiH, Croatia, Montenegro.
Yesterday in Lithuania the first rugby match post-lockdown was played
It seems the activity in Europe is, little step by little step, restarting

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby victorsra » Sun, 07 Jun 2020, 21:57

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Tue, 09 Jun 2020, 19:43

Rugby will restart in Czech Rep and in Slovakia at the end of the month

On june 20 the Marketa National Rugby Stadium will host the Czech men's 5s Cup, a new format (X-Rugby) played five versus five on a reduced field.
On june 27 in the same stadium the Czech 7s championship 2020.
A curios note: the acronym of the Czech federation is CSRU, but the name explained is just Ceska Rugbyove Unie. Where that "S" comes from? Google translates CSRU with "Czechoslovak Socialist Republic" but I doubt it's in this case correct : )
The previous names of the local rugby federation were Československého svazu rugby-footballu and then Československé rugbyové unie. That "S" could be a reprise of that ancient "svazu" (that means "association") or maybe an homage to the Czechoslovak rugby, but I doubt...
http://www.rugbyunion.cz/cs/article/1820

On june 27 as well Bratislava will host the Slovak 7s championship 2020/Tonyho Puverle Memorial
http://www.slovakrugby.sk/novinky/final ... o-puverle/

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Tue, 09 Jun 2020, 20:28

It was ČSSR -- watched a lot of ice hockey as kid

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Grzegorz B. » Wed, 10 Jun 2020, 17:01

Canalina wrote:Yesterday in Lithuania the first rugby match post-lockdown was played


This game on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4y3042tMD4

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Tue, 16 Jun 2020, 06:13

While some eastern Europe nations are mumbling to switch to a spring-autumn calendar, someone in Czech Rep wants to return to the classical autumn-spring one

www.ceskeragby.sportovnilisty.cz/domaci ... e-v-cesku/

From spring to autumn, rugby competitions are played only in Sweden and Russia, but why also in the Czech Republic?
The final of the Sparta-Tatra playoffs was played in November 2019 under unfavorable conditions in winter and in the rain

Regular rugby competitions are expected to re-start at the end of summer 2020. After quarantine, Czech rugby players are offered to painlessly change and abandon the current league experiment, in which rugby players play the league from spring to autumn and return to the autumn-spring system, as it is played throughout Europe except the Nordic countries and Russia.
"I studied the materials from the VV Conferences with clubs in Prague and Brno and decided to try once again to convince the representatives of the clubs that the dictates of insisting on the system of Spring-Autumn competitions, without discussing with the clubs that start in competitions professional but also democratic justification", wrote Eduard Krützner senior in his commentary.
"At the General Meeting, club representatives should refuse to vote on the continuation of the Spring-Autumn system, which is not beneficial for the development of Czech rugby, and return to the Autumn-Spring system used by virtually all European Union, including Rugby Europe competitions", added the legendary rugby player, by friends called Medák.
...
"I will refute the argument of VV representatives that the Spring-Autumn system is more advantageous for the Czech national team with the following facts:
Rugby Europe competitions are played using the Autumn-Spring system. That is why all the European Union respects this system, because the peak of all competitions is heading for the month of May. The Czech Spring-Autumn system will never allow our representatives to be in top form in the spring terms April-May. This is due to the fact that the final battles of our competitions are only in the autumn, at the end of October and in November. In addition, training conditions are negatively affected by the weather, but also by training under artificial lighting. Last year's results were fully confirmed by our national team (Portugal 93:0), whoever approved that our national team played their matches on dates when the players had not played a single competitive match, should bear full responsibility for such gambling on behalf of the Czech Rugby Union.
Throughout Europe, autumn is a time for coaches to form and get to know their team and prepare their wards during the winter break (3 months of training is ideal) for the peak season in May.
If it weren't for quarantine, we would probably play a relegation to the Trophy competition with Croatia on May 23, 2020. The Croats would have the advantage of focusing their preparations for the peak in May, but we have a peak in November"...

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Dcl » Wed, 17 Jun 2020, 13:06

The world rugby article on the new Romanian stadium mentions that the Romania - Belgium game of REC 2020 will be played 7th of November. Any other news on when the last round REC and RET games will be played?

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Grzegorz B. » Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 11:19

Dcl wrote:The world rugby article on the new Romanian stadium mentions that the Romania - Belgium game of REC 2020 will be played 7th of November. Any other news on when the last round REC and RET games will be played?


According to Polish Rugby Union website (https://pzrugby.pl/news/aktualnosc/Sezo ... urope,6200): a window to end season 2019/2020 is planned between October 11 and November 1. Conditions for each game seprately should be determined by unions. If there is no possibility to play the game, it will be verified as draws (2 points for each team).

But it's not specified, if it applies only for RET or also to REC.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Fri, 19 Jun 2020, 10:23

Also the Belarus rest-of-the-year calendar has three national team games in the october/november frame.
Their nature is not specified but maybe they are tentatively the three games of the REC Development not played this spring, id est games versus Slovakia, Estonia and Montenegro

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Fri, 19 Jun 2020, 18:03

Grzegorz B. wrote:
Dcl wrote:The world rugby article on the new Romanian stadium mentions that the Romania - Belgium game of REC 2020 will be played 7th of November. Any other news on when the last round REC and RET games will be played?


According to Polish Rugby Union website (https://pzrugby.pl/news/aktualnosc/Sezo ... urope,6200): a window to end season 2019/2020 is planned between October 11 and November 1. Conditions for each game seprately should be determined by unions. If there is no possibility to play the game, it will be verified as draws (2 points for each team).

But it's not specified, if it applies only for RET or also to REC.

May you translate this, about the 7s Euro championship?
Rugby seniorów - 7:
Jeśli odbędą się zaległe turnieje to nie wcześniej niż w listopadzie br., decyzja ma dotyczyć 1 lub 2 turniejów mistrzowskich i jest w trakcie przygotowania.

I can't understand the google translation, that says
If there are overdue tournaments not earlier than November this year, the decision is to relate to 1 or 2 championship tournaments and is being prepared.

About the XV competitions, this the whole paragraph of the Polish website
A window for the current season (in our case, two matches with Lithuania and Ukraine) is planned from October 11 to November 1 this year. The conditions for the meetings are to be determined individually between the countries concerned. If it is not possible to play a match or matches, the matches will be verified as draws and everyone will get 2 points.
At present, the office of the Polish Rugby Association is in the process of settling with Lietuvos Regbio Federacija and Федерация Pегби Украины about the possibility of playing overdue Rugby Europe Trophy matches.
On the other hand, the schedule for the 2020/2021 season is being prepared by Rugby Europe.


Maybe they want start the new season already in november

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Grzegorz B. » Sat, 20 Jun 2020, 18:09

Canalina wrote:May you translate this, about the 7s Euro championship?
Rugby seniorów - 7:
Jeśli odbędą się zaległe turnieje to nie wcześniej niż w listopadzie br., decyzja ma dotyczyć 1 lub 2 turniejów mistrzowskich i jest w trakcie przygotowania.

I can't understand the google translation, that says
If there are overdue tournaments not earlier than November this year, the decision is to relate to 1 or 2 championship tournaments and is being prepared.


This fragment is in Polish also awkward, probably a problem with translation from English ;) If I understand it correctly:

If they are played overdue tournaments, they will take place not earlier than November. The decision on this matter is currently being prepared and will probably involve 1 or 2 championship tournaments.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Sat, 20 Jun 2020, 19:00

So basically it would be october for XV, november for 7s

To note that also Ukraine is still into the RWC qualifying race, even if just by a slim hair: with three bonus point victories they still can overcome Netherlands and Switzerland
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... eic-men-xv

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Mon, 22 Jun 2020, 15:40

The Euro 7s Trophy 2020, men's and women's, has been cancelled, according to the Denmark federation facebook
https://www.facebook.com/RUGBYdk/posts/3248648048521425

No news about the Championship

The intercontinental Olympic repechage, according to a tunisian newspaper, will be played in June 2021 in Ireland.
France and Ireland itself will be the European teams competing in it

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 14:01

Cancelled also the European Beach Championship 2020. Still in stand-by the Euro 7s Championship men and women and the Euro 7s Club Championship. A "confidential" Rugby Europe document published by a national federation reveals it

You will find below a record of the decisions taken by Rugby Europe Board of Directors on June 10th, 2020. Please note that this document is strictly confidential and shall not be circulated to any third parties nor disclosed to media.
• 2020 editions of the Senior Men’s and Women’s 7s Trophy are officially cancelled.
• 2020 edition of Rugby Europe Beach Rugby Championship is officially cancelled.
• Decision on the Men’s and Women’s 7s Championships is postponed to a later stage. Those
events if happening would happen in November.
• Decision on the 7s Club Championships is postponed to a later stage.
• Rescheduling options for the remaining matches of the 2019-20 edition of the Men’s REC
(XV), Men’s Trophy Division (XV), Women’s REC (XV) have been shared directly with the
participating teams.
• The implementation of the Minimum Participation Criteria for Rugby Europe competitions
is postponed for a year and will be first implemented for the 2021-2022 season.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Silver Fox » Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 16:15

I couldn't care less about Beach Rugby tournaments but this last line:
• The implementation of the Minimum Participation Criteria for Rugby Europe competitions
gets me excited.
I have been advocating this for many years.
I am particularly curious about the criteria for participation in the Championship.
In my opinion it is mandatory to have this at an ambitious level in order to raise the level of the REC.
At least it should cover having a continuous presence in RE's Age Grade competitions, play international matches in proper stadiums with modern TV facilities, facilitate the use of a TMO, invest or participate in promotion of the tournament and it's games, and more organizational and financial criteria.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby victorsra » Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 17:10

What exactly is payed by Rugby Europe in those beach rugby, snow rugby and club rugby 7s tournaments? Because if they are putting money on this is a waste of resources that could be used helping to build that Continental Shield or making the Grand Prix 7s better.
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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 09:46

I think that the beach competitions could have a propaganda power. At least theoretically. In the reality I doubt that they may have attracted to rugby someone not already interested, as I think that beach handball didn't really attract to handball anyone not already interested. Beach volley, instead, seems working very well

Resume

REC Men
Championship postponed, tentatively to october/november
Trophy postponed, tentatively to october/november
Conference One cancelled
Conference Two cancelled
Development cancelled

REC Women
Championship postponed, tentatively to october/november
Trophy cancelled
RWC qualifying postponed, tentatively to december

Euro Junior Men
Under 20 cancelled
Under 18 cancelled

Euro 7s Series
Men and women Championship postponed, tentatively to november
Men and women Trophy cancelled
Men and women Conference 1 cancelled
Men Conference 2 cancelled

Euro 7s U18
Men cancelled
Women cancelled

Euro 7s clubs
Men postponed
Women postponed

Euro Beach
Men cancelled
Women cancelled

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 13:32

Snow and Beach are there so more nations can say to their government and sponsors that they are achieving results for their investment.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby victorsra » Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 13:43

I see the point and I'm not against beach rugby. In fact I think WR should have something for beach rugby, like the World Games. But Grand Prix is the Olympic sport and it definitly needs more investment. That Club 7s is the biggest waste.
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